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Micmac
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| Celtic-supporter wrote: | | Not quite the case. Most supporters of other teams do not necessarily have any care for Celtic and/or Rangers. Especially larger clubs like Aberdeen, Hearts & Hibernian. They care only about their own teams. When you go down the leagues, where the clubs are smaller, then this will happen, but that is the same in any country. |
I was talking most from my own experience. I live in Ayrshire, and most people here wether they are Ayr United supporters or Kilmarnock supporters will through their allegience down the loo once there's a Rangers match on the telly.
I find to be part of the same phenomenom when you find a Celtic Shop in Stirling. You wouldn't find a Man City shop in Darlington, an Arsenal shop in Bristol or a Rosenborg shop in Bodø.
That is something that I find to be exclusively scottish. When I lived in England a couple of years ago, I never saw this at the same degree. People supported their local team, full stop. This is also the case in Norway. Norwegians are much more tribal about their local communities than about religion and other stuff.
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robbie
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| Posted: 23.07.2017 00:51 Post subject: |
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| Ståle wrote: | | Could you please elaborate om this incident? Or link to a news article which explains what happened? Must have been quite bad to have them banned for several games |
Dette er fra dagens avis:
http://www.dailyrecord.co...d-10851483
Isolert sett er bannerene ganske harmløse. Men skotsk supporterkultur er en kruttønne, så det skal ikke mye mere til enn et par politisk ladete bannere før det smeller. |
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Micmac
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| Posted: 23.07.2017 01:30 Post subject: |
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| robbie wrote: | | Celtic-supporter wrote: | | Not quite the case. Most supporters of other teams do not necessarily have any care for Celtic and/or Rangers. Especially larger clubs like Aberdeen, Hearts & Hibernian. They care only about their own teams. When you go down the leagues, where the clubs are smaller, then this will happen, but that is the same in any country. |
I was talking most from my own experience. I live in Ayrshire, and most people here wether they are Ayr United supporters or Kilmarnock supporters will through their allegience down the loo once there's a Rangers match on the telly.
I find to be part of the same phenomenom when you find a Celtic Shop in Stirling. You wouldn't find a Man City shop in Darlington, an Arsenal shop in Bristol or a Rosenborg shop in Bodø.
That is something that I find to be exclusively scottish. When I lived in England a couple of years ago, I never saw this at the same degree. People supported their local team, full stop. This is also the case in Norway. Norwegians are much more tribal about their local communities than about religion and other stuff. |
I found a Fenerbahce-shop in Antalya |
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haavarl
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| Posted: 23.07.2017 10:18 Post subject: |
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| robbie wrote: | | People supported their local team, full stop. This is also the case in Norway. Norwegians are much more tribal about their local communities than about religion and other stuff. |
Yeah except from RBK, because we're "The entire Norway's RBK".
On a more serious note; each team in Norway has a firm core of supporters, but if you're outside that core, you support whatever you fancy. Not to the degree that you'll find Rosenborg shops in Bodø, though.
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| This is drifting a bit off-topic, but I was rather shocked to find a Bayern München supporter shop in Berlin last year. In one of the major shopping malls no less. |
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For de på ferie i Dubrovnik , Celtic bar Belfast i Lapad distriktet viser kampen.
Ikke noen stor plass da. |
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| Posted: 23.07.2017 12:34 Post subject: |
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| Vises denne på Viasat 4? Finner ingen info om hverken 4-ern eller Viaplay. |
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Mikkelsen
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http://www.dagbladet.no/s...a/68527669
Jo Kåre. Dundalk er amatører og nivåforskjellen mellom dem og Celtic er like stor som mellom Real Madrid og Bodø-Glimt. Vi ble rundspilt av irske amatører, det verste er at det skinte tydelig gjennom at de ble mer og mer slitne og at et hvilket som helst fotballag som er bitte lite granne mindre ræva enn Rosenborg er med deg som trener ville overkjørt dem.
Å sammenligne Vardars seier mot Malmø med vår flakseseier mot Dundalk er også helt høl i hue.
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| Posted: 23.07.2017 14:14 Post subject: |
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| Micmac wrote: | | robbie wrote: | | Celtic-supporter wrote: | | Not quite the case. Most supporters of other teams do not necessarily have any care for Celtic and/or Rangers. Especially larger clubs like Aberdeen, Hearts & Hibernian. They care only about their own teams. When you go down the leagues, where the clubs are smaller, then this will happen, but that is the same in any country. |
I was talking most from my own experience. I live in Ayrshire, and most people here wether they are Ayr United supporters or Kilmarnock supporters will through their allegience down the loo once there's a Rangers match on the telly.
I find to be part of the same phenomenom when you find a Celtic Shop in Stirling. You wouldn't find a Man City shop in Darlington, an Arsenal shop in Bristol or a Rosenborg shop in Bodø.
That is something that I find to be exclusively scottish. When I lived in England a couple of years ago, I never saw this at the same degree. People supported their local team, full stop. This is also the case in Norway. Norwegians are much more tribal about their local communities than about religion and other stuff. |
I found a Fenerbahce-shop in Antalya |
Thats Turkey, Turkey has one giant Galatasaray and two big clubs Fenerbahce and Besiktas that are supported nationwide. Some teams like Trabzon, Bursa, Eskisehir, Goztepe or Ankaragucu have a core basis, but these are only a few occasions. Most locals support their town teams + one of the three 'big' teams |
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| tombur wrote: | http://www.dagbladet.no/sport/ingebrigtsen-vil-ikke-ringe-solskjaer-for-hjelp---nei-jeg-ringer-heller-ronny-deila/68527669
Jo Kåre. Dundalk er amatører og nivåforskjellen mellom dem og Celtic er like stor som mellom Real Madrid og Bodø-Glimt. Vi ble rundspilt av irske amatører, det verste er at det skinte tydelig gjennom at de ble mer og mer slitne og at et hvilket som helst fotballag som er bitte lite granne mindre ræva enn Rosenborg er med deg som trener ville overkjørt dem.
Å sammenligne Vardars seier mot Malmø med vår flakseseier mot Dundalk er også helt høl i hue. |
Fikk du med deg Dundalk sine prestasjoner i EL i fjor?
Dundalk er langt i fra så amatørmessig som enkelte her hevder...
Vi ble heller ikke rundspilt av Dundalk. Over to kamper var vi et bedre lag.. enkelt å greit.
Vi hadde flere sjanser over to kamper
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robbie
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Dundalk er en gjeng med amatører. De er bokstavelig talt amatører, siden de ikke er fotballspillere på fulltid.
Men det betyr selvsagt ikke at de er et dårlig lag. Roar Strand var fortsatt amatørspiller da han knuste Olympiakos på egen hånd. |
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Mikkelsen
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| Folk må slutte å se på historikk. Fotball er ferskvare. Dundalk spilte bra fotball, men kondisjonen til det laget var virkelig amatør. De så ikke trente ut. Et bedre lag enn oss ville slått Dundalk enkelt. Det er bare vi som ikke er gode nok. |
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| Ståle wrote: | | Could you please elaborate om this incident? Or link to a news article which explains what happened? Must have been quite bad to have them banned for several games |
The official reason is that there were a lot of pyrotechnic flares taken in and let off during the last game of last season against Hearts, and used as a display by the Green Brigade marking the 50th anniversary of our European Cup win. This apparently led to a private warning towards the group and concerns raised by Glasgow City Council. Then apparent disorder in the section (not just the banners, although they probably didn't help) at the game against Linfield meant that the club acted. Flares are a strict no-no at games in the UK (something to watch if any of your fans are bringing any).
The media (as you can see from the link Robbie gave) are concentrating on the banners, which were pretty needlessly stupid and could get the club into trouble. But the club say it is wider issues that have caused it. The club have been quite helpful towards them in recent times, letting them in early to set up displays, and they see this as a slap in the face. |
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| robbie wrote: | | Celtic-supporter wrote: | | Not quite the case. Most supporters of other teams do not necessarily have any care for Celtic and/or Rangers. Especially larger clubs like Aberdeen, Hearts & Hibernian. They care only about their own teams. When you go down the leagues, where the clubs are smaller, then this will happen, but that is the same in any country. |
I was talking most from my own experience. I live in Ayrshire, and most people here wether they are Ayr United supporters or Kilmarnock supporters will through their allegience down the loo once there's a Rangers match on the telly.
I find to be part of the same phenomenom when you find a Celtic Shop in Stirling. You wouldn't find a Man City shop in Darlington, an Arsenal shop in Bristol or a Rosenborg shop in Bodø.
That is something that I find to be exclusively scottish. When I lived in England a couple of years ago, I never saw this at the same degree. People supported their local team, full stop. This is also the case in Norway. Norwegians are much more tribal about their local communities than about religion and other stuff. |
Fair enough, although Kilmarnock fans have long been suspected by us to really prefer Rangers all along! There are certainly Celtic/Rangers fans right across the country - and you find a few Aberdeen fans from Glasgow too - but I think they mostly exist along side supporters of local teams.
Plenty of countries have clubs with supporters nationwide, even in England Liverpool & Man Utd have fans everywhere, same with Juventus in Italy, Benfica etc in Portugal. |
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Mikkelsen
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| Scorer vi ikke på bortebane, går vi ikke videre. For det er 100% sikkert at vi slipper inn minst ett mål på hjemmebane. |
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Taper 0-1 borte og vinner 3-1 hjemme  |
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| Posted: 23.07.2017 18:27 Post subject: |
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Noe mer TV-info?
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Nei, får tro at det kommer bekreftelse i morgen.
Forresten fint om engelske diskusjoner kan foregå i det engelske forumet.
Please discuss the match in English in the English forum. |
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Micmac
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Det er mange som er så ute å kjøre når det kommer til Dundalk. Demer profesjonelle fotballspillere, det er jobben dems å spille fotball. Det er kun et par av spillerne som har en jobb utenom, resten tjener kun i dundalk fc. De har snittlønn på 400.000-500.000.
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robbie
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| I såfall er det vel sammenlignbart med lag på lavere halvdel i Norge? Om jeg ikke tar feil? |
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SHJINNJWÆST
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| Mikkelsen wrote: | | Folk må slutte å se på historikk. Fotball er ferskvare. Dundalk spilte bra fotball, men kondisjonen til det laget var virkelig amatør. De så ikke trente ut. Et bedre lag enn oss ville slått Dundalk enkelt. Det er bare vi som ikke er gode nok. |
Mange av dem var betydelig bedre bygd enn våre spillere, så tviler på at de var så mye dårligere trent. Det var ikke formen vår som avgjorde dette, men marginene. Rett og slett flaks. |
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RBK kjørte kampen totalt mot slutten, og det var bare et spørsmål om tid før vi fikk inn 2-1
Det var langt i fra flaks.
Rosenborg var best.. enkelt å greit.
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SHJINNJWÆST
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| niccolai wrote: | RBK kjørte kampen totalt mot slutten, og det var bare et spørsmål om tid før vi fikk inn 2-1
Det var langt i fra flaks.
Rosenborg var best.. enkelt å greit. |
Haha for noe forbanna bullshit, hvilken kamp har du sett? |
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